8 Comments

1. Kiyori
   May 20, 2008 at 11:17 pm | Permalink

   Hi! I’m just a passerby, but also a fellow learner of the Japanese language

   I hope I’m not being presumptuous, but I’ve always believed that one of the ways a language is best learned is through writing, and having it validated. I mean absolutely no offense, obviously, because my only intention is to improve on the language (yours, and in the process, mine), so I hope you don’t mind that I ramble on the following…

   何もやられないだった　－　i have never seen it used in this form, but 何もやられなかった instead

   自分の日本語　－　自分 refers more to oneself, eg.自分でやります so perhaps 私の日本語　would be more apt

   上手ない　－　上手じゃない

   I don’t profess to be an expert at this, because like you, I am still learning. If you don’t agree with what I said, please go ahead and correct me- i’d love to learn

   Errr, alternatively, you can just ignore this blabbering passerby (i tend to talk too much when it comes to the Japanese language >__<)

2. Adlina
   May 21, 2008 at 5:12 am | Permalink

   LOL. I figure you’re from my Junjou.info as well, no? Nice seeing you here.

   Thanks for pointing them out. I seem to make typo all the time T_T The first one you pointed out actually read in my english transcription on my notepad as:

   nanimo yararenai rashii
   何もやられないらしい

   O_o trust me to make such a HUGE mistake when typing it out >.<
   But then ‘yararenai’ is not an adjective. In speech, it is ‘yararenakatta’ (which is why I’m much better at listening). Or maybe because I’ve seen too much use of ‘suterarenaidatta’ in academic articles. I was familiar with ‘suterarenakatta’ in spoken Japanese. I got confused royally @_@

   The second one is fine. It’s what I intended it to be and sound like. Like poetically saying ‘jibun no kokoro’ in prose.

   The third one is another typo, though. Thanks for pointing it out. Should have been:

   上手じゃないと思って
   joozu janai to omou

   And I wonder why I got B in my assignment ~_~

   Do drop by again if you have time later~

   *huggles*

   p.s/ Microsoft IME is dangerous, sometimes, especially when I got to carried away with speaking and type out what should be これは　as　これわ
   =D

3. Kiyori
   May 21, 2008 at 10:13 am | Permalink

   Hehe, yup, I first found your site looking for Junjou Romantica. Lots of love to you for uploading them! You really made a lot of fans happy ^__^

   I watched the 6th episode without subs (only realised aarinfantasy had the hard subs up after downloading from here -__-) and being my first time watching without subs, it was quite tough. I got the gist of it, but still… there’s this unsatisfied part of me not knowing whether I understood it correctly. Need. to. improve. Japanese. Ups to you for your softsubs! You must have been learning it for a while to be able to do subbing!

   So you actually meant to say 何もやられないらしい ? It’s a different thing altogether, no?

   And yeah, yararenai is not an adjective, but I’ve learnt to treat it as one when doing the past-tense of it. So is 何もやられないだった used in formal situations? I’m confused too o___o

   I type with Microsoft IME, so i frequently make the mistakes you mentioned :3

   *huggles back* Glad to be able to chat with you!

4. Adlina
   May 21, 2008 at 2:58 pm | Permalink

   Don’t worry. I’m confused as hell too. Shouldn’t formal situations employ ~ありません / ~ありませんでした instead of plain forms, though?

   LOL. I make sure to announce Aarin’s sub as soon as it’s released so that ppl can pick up their hardsub I’m comfortable with RAWS because, well, my spoken Japanese is a lot better. It’s like being able to understand what you listen to, but easily succumb to typos and errors in writing T_T

   JLPT is tough stuff. All the kanjis are killing me @_@ I have, like, 250 more to memorise. huy78$*&%%$%#&8uit673!!

   XD

   Love chatting with you too! Can we be friends?

5. Kiyori
   May 21, 2008 at 9:29 pm | Permalink

   Hmm, actually there are two polite forms-

   1. -masu form
   eg. いきます

   2. -n desu form
   eg.　いくんです

   Both means the same thing, but (1) is considered more casual, and used in daily conversations. (2) can be used too, but considered less casual, because it also carries hidden “feelings” of the speaker.

   For instance, if I ask you 明日図書館へいくんですか。it carries the feeling of my curiosity, and that I am truly interested to know, as opposed to just making conversation and not really caring whether you go or not.

   Eee, i’m so jealous! How do you improve your Japanese? And how long have you been learning? I have been learning for 1+ year now. For me, kanji is difficult because of the kunyomi and onyomi readings, but other than that, I don’t have much difficulty remember how to write them because I’m Chinese ^^; Is it the same for you too?

   Quick question: do you use any special software to type Japanese? I use the default windows one and it’s a little screwy- I’ll be typing in English and halfway it’ll switch to Japanese T__T

   I got my JLPT3 last year… wondering if I should try for 2 this year, but honestly I’m not really confident, LOL. But I still have time… that’s what I keep telling myself and as a result get nowhere -___-;;
   I read that you’ll be taking it this year- がんばってね！＾ｗ＾

   *squee!* Of course we can be friends!

6. Adlina
   May 22, 2008 at 10:44 am | Permalink

   Yay for getting a new friend!!! XD XD

   I was actually mentioning about the polite negative form, actually Like the copula:

   negative non-past: ではありません or　じゃありません
   negative past: ではありませんでした or　じゃありませんでした

   Like in this example:

   先生の車は赤いですか？
   いいえ、赤くありません。

   And the polite negative form for the adjectives:

   I-Adjective Example:
   non-past: 大きくありません
   past: 大きくありませんでした

   NA-Adjective
   non-past: 静かじゃありません
   past: 静かじゃありませんでした

   What I’m currently learning is Japanese grammar, so it kind of cracks my head a bit more than the normal everyday-use Japanese T_T Like how I’m trying to get it planted in my head that ~います　is used for te-form of verbs and not the ta-form…

   So on and so forth. Bleh… The language is too structured that it’s so hard to delve into. And since I don’t attend classes, but rather, learn everything on my own, it’s even tougher. But the hands-on experience helps a lot

   I’m a book person, so I simply learn from books. For Kanji, I use Declan’s programs. The Read/Write kanji trains me good XD I don’t have other programs to write Jap characters other than IME. I used NJStar in my old laptop, but it’s not compatible with my new one because it’s Vista So I’ll have to bear with IME.

   Must be cool for you since you’re familiar with the characters~ My native languages are Malay, English and Thai, so I’m not familiar with chinese characters. That’s why kanji is a bit tough.

   About the JLPT… Well, I’m just going to try my luck. I can always try again if I fail. Heheheheehe….

   p.s/
   *points to your example* Hey, how do you know I’m going to the library?? XD XD

7. Kiyori
   May 22, 2008 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

   ohhhh… I think I get it now. You’re saying ではありません and じゃありません are used in formal situations, and your ‘plain-form’ refers to verbs ending with -ない, yes?
   I was on a different track, LOL. I was comparing between 2 polite forms, whereby one is more formal than the other.

   I learn from a school, so the lessons are more structured. Outside of class, I also do my own learning. I don’t know if I can be disciplined enough to study entirely on my own. Though if I did, I’d have saved a load of money $__$

   But at least in class, I get to converse in Japanese and know the way they really speak, as well as learn more about the way words are used, their culture, all the intricate little details, etc. (ok, can you tell I’m trying to comfort myself? LOL)

   The good thing about knowing Chinese is that I also understand the meaning of the kanji characters 95% of the time, even if I can’t pronounce it, since the meanings of most words in both languages are almost the same. Downside is, I was educated in simplified chinese, so I still have to learn how to write it in the many-more-strokes (aka traditional) version -__-;;

   ps: I’m PSYCHIC!!!! muahahaha!

   pps: I’m not stalking your site! *coughs* I am just… logged on the internet 80% of my waking time. (remaining time for travelling, eating, inconsequential stuff) Not very healthy, yeah. But at least it’s true for weekdays only, since the bulk of it is because I’m at work.

8. Izz
   May 31, 2008 at 3:20 am | Permalink

   Hi hi~ Haven’t got the chance to thank you for the free hosting. I really appreciate it. I always disturb you… Sorry! >.< Wahh~ So jealous with you living in NZ and learning japanese. *envy* XD I can only read korean (still learning though).